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Topic: A wiggly woe

undone-backwards
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posted 04-29-2000 02:59 PM $Profile for undone-backwards$ $Email undone-backwards$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

I need a moveset for Wigglytuff....I came up with:
Bslam
Blizzard
defense curl
rest
???????:confued:
Help me!

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Argo
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posted 04-29-2000 03:07 PM $Profile for Argo$ $Email Argo$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Uhh..that looks fine..

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But Wiggly has crap special!!!! Blizzard won't do much

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posted 04-29-2000 03:52 PM $Profile for Jackdaw$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email Jackdaw$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Counter or Substitute might work better than Blizzard seeing how, as mentioned above, Wiggly's special is atrocious. Other than that, pretty good.

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posted 05-02-2000 03:58 PM $Profile for Mr. K$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email Mr. K$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

The default condition in tourneys is Wiggly uses Body Slam against a high-Special, lower-Defense Pokemon.

So, Body Slam is just about always the answer. Defense Curl takes a while to get going and you're typically fighting guys who are not hitting on Wiggly's Defense anyway, so I don't think DC is necessary.

As for the second attack, you have to look at who Wiggly has problems with. Rock Pokemon, Ghost Pokemon and guys like Cloyster.

Blizzard is good vs. Rock/Ground and doesn't suck vs. Ghost with its chance to freeze. Seismic Toss might not be a bad option either.

I'd suggest replacing DC with something that would help you while Resting...probably Double Team...altho I don't personally like it.

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posted 05-06-2000 11:22 AM $Profile for undone-backwards$ $Email undone-backwards$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Would this be any good?
Hyper beam + 1.5x bonus.
Thunderwave - gain speed advantage
Double team - max evade
Rest - gain all hp back after max DT.

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posted 05-06-2000 11:34 AM $Profile for Mr. K$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email Mr. K$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Might be OK, but having Hyper Beam as your primary attack is a littly dicey.

Body Slam does more damage in 2 turns, has the free PAR chance, and has more PP.

That still leaves you screwed vs. Gengar and tough Defense Pokemon, so it's up to you whether you want to be able to deal with them or be more defensive in the general case.

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posted 05-06-2000 02:06 PM $Profile for Amoe$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email Amoe$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Body Slam, Double Edge, Double Team, Rest is probably good.

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posted 05-06-2000 04:30 PM $Profile for undone-backwards$ $Email undone-backwards$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

What about- Dedge, Twave, Rest, Dteam?

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posted 05-06-2000 08:28 PM $Profile for Rolken$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email Rolken$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

You don't get bonuses on normal attacks.

2 Strengths (or keeping body slams) are better than one HB.

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posted 05-06-2000 08:51 PM $Profile for Mr. K$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email Mr. K$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

quote:
Originally posted by Rolken:
You don't get bonuses on normal attacks.

Yes, you do.

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2 Strengths (or keeping body slams) are better than one HB.

Body Slam is better than Strength. If you want 2 Normal attacks, I'd go for Hyper Beam and Body Slam or Double-Edge.

Body Slam and Double-Edge are similar enough that you should probably pick your favorite and go with that.

Seismic Toss isn't a bad option for dealing with high Defense guys/Ghosts, either.

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quote:
Originally posted by undone-backwards:
I need a moveset for Wigglytuff....I came up with:
Bslam
Blizzard
defense curl
rest
???????:confued:
Help me!

I think u spelled confused wrong

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posted 05-07-2000 04:25 AM $Profile for undone-backwards$ $Email undone-backwards$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Well I kinda want thunderwave, to gain the speed advantage as soon as possible.....

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posted 05-07-2000 05:44 AM $Profile for branners$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email branners$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Yep, I like that. It depends what you want. Hardly anyone in our area uses ghosts or rocks, so one normal attack will suffice...

I would go for...

-body slam
-substitute
-double team
-rest
>--Hard to kill, especially if you can paralyse them as well with body slam...or...

-double edge
-thunderwave
-double team
-rest
>--if you must have the paralysis... personally I would thunderwave everything before with an electric first...

I prefer the top one though, it would be an absolute b!tch to kill...

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posted 05-07-2000 05:59 AM $Profile for undone-backwards$ $Email undone-backwards$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

yeah, I like your suggestions branners but I'm still not totally decided....I'll see what it's like on stadium elite 4..

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posted 05-07-2000 06:39 AM $Profile for Caos2$ $Email Caos2$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

Well, Wig stats aren`t great but here is my moveset for him:

B-Slam -> Like Mr.K said, for high Special poke with low Def.

Toss -> He can`t deal good damage with Special/Physical attacks so Toss is his best choice.

T-Wave -> So you can attack faster.

Double Team

Caos2

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posted 05-07-2000 10:40 AM $Profile for undone-backwards$ $Email undone-backwards$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

I'm not sure, I'd like rest on it to regain its hp....what's a wiggly without rest? That's like a parasect without spore!

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posted 05-07-2000 10:42 AM $Profile for branners$ $Author's Homepage$ $Email branners$ $Send New Private Message$ $Edit/Delete Post$ $Reply With Quote$

I agree. Double team without a recovery move seems silly to me.

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