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Draco the spirit dragon
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Truemius (Mewtwo)
leftovers

Psychic
Doubleteam
Irontail
Recover

my best pokemon, designed to take on anything but Houndoom. including T-tars, Lugia and other Mewtwo's. so what do you think?

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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purdy sweet. just like mine exept for irontail. i give it 8.5 outta 10. irontail could be replaced with somthing better i just don't know whut. and get rid of recover for rest trust me on this one cuz thunderwavers can be a pain in the ass.

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Drop Iron Tail for Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Submission/Dynamicpunch.
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yeah submission would be the best out of those for those hard-to-kill blissy's and snorlax's

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Draco the spirit dragon
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but what of Lugia and Dragonite? hum? and i have tried dymo before. and somtimes during set up i need to heal.

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always expect the unexpected!

I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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Use other pokemon.
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Drop Iron Tail and Double Team to make room for Dynamic Punch and either Ice Beam/Thunderbolt.

Trust me, it works better this way. Double Team is cheap.

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Steel moves should almost never be used to counter a weakness, especially not one as lame as Iron Tail. 100 damage, poor accuracy, bad effect?

It belongs on the few Pokemon that could possibly make some use out of it.

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true the accrucy of iron tail is bad but it strong against rock and flying (which Mewtwo needs) and can destroyle defence (which is handy against most pokemon, ecpeserly thing like Snorlax) and after 5 double teams he is [Cool] very [Cool] hard to hit.

by the way i only use this guy with my oppoment consent and not every battle.

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always expect the unexpected!

I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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quote:
Originally posted by Draco the spirit dragon:
true the accrucy of iron tail is bad but it strong against rock and flying (which Mewtwo needs) and can destroyle defence (which is handy against most pokemon, ecpeserly thing like Snorlax) and after 5 double teams he is [Cool] very [Cool] hard to hit.

by the way i only use this guy with my oppoment consent and not every battle.

You know what you do to a flying type with Mewtwo?

PSYCHIC!

You know what you do to a rock type with Mewtwo?

PSYCHIC!

Psychic's more than adequate for mauling an Aerodactyl. Remember Mewtwo's highest special attack in the game?

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ever tried to psy a dark or anothr psy?

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always expect the unexpected!

I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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you ever try to actually play the game as a strategy game and not just be a stupid newbie?
just wondering.

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Draco the spirit dragon
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i have been playing pokemon since yellow, so I don't think I'm a newbie. I like pokemon becuse it is strategy.

anyway my Truemius strategy is this.
When people see Mewtwo they send things like T-tar out(a Dark/rock type) which psychic would not work on, so i smash it up with irontail (following me?) another comman oppoment is Lugia (a psychic/flying type) which again psychic is not very affectith against, so I iron tail that too. Also irontail brakes down defence, handy against pokemon that can heal. and double team is a very good defencive move that has saved my Mewtwo again and again. newbie am I? think before you write. also may I add I only use my Mewtwo when other use the same callaber pokemon.

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always expect the unexpected!

I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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Well, you still have the problem of curse. And mind you that many teams have a curser and many of these cursers also have high Special Defense.

So while you DT away, they curse, and it takes one ludky hit to OHKO mewtwo and the rest of your team.

So indeed, good ol' Umbreon will pwn you.

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ANYONE WHO USES MEWTWO IS A NEWBIE... PERIOD.
BATTLE MEH ON GSBOT ANUS.

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n00bs are more people new to a forum (or just idiots on it) than people new to the games.

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Draco the spirit dragon
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interesting point Cesar, i'm just glad curses haven't caght on were i live yet. Pisir ever been in an Mewtwo verse Mewtwo battle? now there fun! throught using Mewtwo in an normal battle is cheeting. another point, putting things in caps make you seem imature. i would like to battle you in an battle (you chose the rules) just give me a link to a site and a time (based on GMT please)

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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OK Draco, listen. Irontail won't be as useful as other attacks that run off M2's huge Special. If you are that concerned about Rocks, Darks, and Flying, you're best choice is either Ice Beam or T-Bolt. Both will end up close to as powerful as Irontail, plus they have much better accuracy.

Also, remember that M2 is almost useless if it gets paralyzed. Any semi-fast poke that has good Def/Spc Def with a strong Attack-based move will end up killing M2. Why? If something like Starmie paralyzes you, they might switch out to something like Eggy...wait, bad example, Eggy would end up having to recharge itself because of the recoil from D-Edge. Hmmm...ok, try this (I hope I'm right on this, someone correct me if I'm wrong) M2 vs Jolteon. Jolt paralyzes M2, Agility once, a few T-Bolts if it has the staying power (and it probably won't, but then again, since M2 is paralyzed, Jolt IS faster). Then BP out to Snorlax. Either Body Slam or D-Edge a few times, use Minty Rest, and keep pounding away. M2 won't have the time to Double Team if you want it to stay alive. You'll need to keep Recovering, and even then, I'm not sure how long M2 can keep that up. If an Agility + once-Cursed Snorlax is faster, then you're really dead. If not, there's still a good chance that Lax is packing Self Destruct.

Now, what did all that have to do with Irontail? Good question....cause I'm not really sure :-P All I know that if you need one attack to finish that T-Tar or Lugia off before you get knocked out yourself, you'd want to go with the most accurate powerful attack that you have access to, and Irontail isn't that attack, you'd be better off with Ice Beam or T-Bolt, especially with the chance to freeze or paralyze. Listen, if you said that most people in your area haven't caught on to Curse yet, chances are they won't know much about strategy. Just go out their and kick butt with what's tried and true, then once they know what's coming, switch it up and experiment.

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PINSIR SAMA don't know how long you play the game and i don't care, everybody is free to use the pokémon they want to use, i've played it since the beginning when other people were laughing at pika pika, i know what this game is, and just because i use a mewtwo i'm a newbie? haha i think that's pretty pathetic, i still use a mewtwo sometimes, when i feel like using it, i rather don't because i don't like using legendary's but if i want to, i'll do so, and i don't wanna hear you say i'm new to the game, i've probably played it more and longer as you. [Mad]

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PokeProGamer, Pinsir_sama is allowed to think what he wants.. And for the record Mewtwo IS cheap and a lot of people DO consider you a n00b for using him because he can take out whole teams with little effort and time.. The only good way to counter a Mewtwo is by using a Curselax and even then it's going to be pretty hard to take out a Mewtwo unless you get extremely lucky. You know, I fought a guy that used 2 Mewtwos and if I didn't have my Curselax on my team, he would've killed me so bad and beaten me so easily because Curselax was proably my best pokemon... In my opinion people can use teams of 6 Mewtwos for all I care, but just remember that not everyone expects people to use legendaries on there teams or at least not the ones like Mewtwo, Ho-oh and Lugia. Sometimes you can predict if a person is going to use them, but most of the time it's completely unexpected and that's the main reason why people hate battling them because it's so unexpected to battle them.

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*laughs at Pinsir-Sama*

Face is right, in many circles, Mewtwo is considered cheap. Why?

1) Phenominal stats
2) Good move selection
3) The ability to do like everything a team could need.

But in some circles, Mewtwo is considered OK. Not so much anymore in today's metagame and rules, but if you want a place where M2 isn't cheap, Azure is not the place you're looking for. Some other boards are far more tolerant of newer trainers, and Mewtwos.

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Mewtwo is cheep in most battles BUT makes an excerly pokemon for unuslae games
example you have an tornamint and its one on one
or Mewtwo counts as team or fight a lengerdary team to prove how good you are (i tried my normal team against a legdery team on stadium didn't win but it was fun) or a no limits battle. are all examples of Mewtwo useage to make it fair or you wish to make it hard

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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Mewtwo does learn Submission, you know. Doesn't do much unless its a dark type, but that's what Psychic's for. The problem is this: Mirror Coat. An Atmacune could easily Curse, Rest, and Mirror Coat, fainting said kitty. Or an Exploder. For instance, Golem's EQ, then Explosion.

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Please, just go with their suggestions. It's painful enough to see someone using a Mewtwo, but when said Mewtwo-player doesn't know what the hell they're doing... Oh, and by the way, most of these people (myself included) have played this game since the first days of Red and Blue. You are a n00b, you just have to admit it, suck it up and accept their help. It isn't that hard, you know. Just say those two little words... "I suck." Because you know you do. And things get easier after that.

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i've being playing quite while and you have completly missed the point of my argument. i know i'm not elite yet but i'm not newbie or crap!

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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Truemius (Mewtwo)
leftovers

Psychic
Doubleteam
Irontail
Recover

I haven't read all of the replies, but, here's my two cents...

Recover is ok. Mewtwo DOES have a nice amount of HP, especially when tied in with Double Team to keep him alive longer. Psychic CAN stay, but, in my opinion, Iron Tail has GOT to go. Even on a STEEL Pokémon I would NEVER use a a Steel attack. If you're afraid of rock and ground Pokémon just teach Mewtwo ICEBEAM, that way it will STILL kick the ass of most Ice/Rock, plus, it will kick the ass of most Flying Types...

IceBeam + Mewtwo's Special = pwnage

So, ditch Iron Tail. I think that all Steel moves are horrible, and I battle using a SCIZOR...

Now, stick with Psychic if you want, but, be weary of who you're battling, sure you'll get STAB, but, in todays world, with all the dark and steel n00bs, a Psychic blast might not be so effective. But, the ice beam would still put a dent in them, and, along with recover and double team, icebeams alone could help take down those annoying darks even...

So Psychic/IceBeam/DoubleTeam/Recover can work I believe. Leftovers isn't a bad idea too. My only other suggestion might be to go with BrightPowder, but, I think Leftovers is better.

Go get em

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MK:

So, ditch Iron Tail. I think that all Steel moves are horrible, and I battle using a SCIZOR...

[Eek!] . I know ehere talking about mewtwo here but I have to comment on this.

Steel_wing is a good steel move. And most people us it on scizor, expecially skarmory as even with curse rock pokemon will eat that attack.

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I use Scizor and I dont use Steel Wing! ROCK HP ALL THE WAY!

And as for M2 DROP Iron Tail, I dont care if it breaks down defense, I dont care if you've won a MILLION battles DROP IT FOR SUBMISSION with submission you can 2HKO a t-tar!!!! a t-tar!!!! keep Double Team if you want but you might wanna drop it for a good-ol Flamethrower Ice Beam or Thunderbolt, any of which are good on Lugia or Skarmory. I'm with MK here ALL STEEL MOVE's SUXXOR (except MAYBE steel wing on Skarmory) just don't use them. Submission is good on everything Iron tail is but better accuracy and it can 2HKO a freaking t-tar, which by looking at your post was your worst enemy.

MK whats your Scizor got? mine has
~rest
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~HP rock
@Leftovers.
with HP rock I can 1HKO Ho-oH if I SD and I usually pass him Amnesia and Substitute so he can survive a sacred fire. When he gets sub he can survive 3 sacred fires.

Edit: due to face pointing out that Baton Pass and Substitute is illegal on Scizor I changed Substitute w/leftovers to mintyrest

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Interesting set, Tubbers. A n00b who's mostly only a n00b in newishness to the forums. Finally.

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i would love to have submition but my other regerler oppoment is other mewtwos...

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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quote:
i would love to have submition but my other regerler oppoment is other mewtwos...
Then they have the same problem as you, except that YOU ARE USING FREAKING DOUBLE TEAM, so unless they're smart enough to use ice beam or T-bolt on him and you're not, it shouldn't be a problem. Put submission over iron tail like everyone said and then add T-bolt over double team. Also, if you battle mostly mewtwos, GET A FREAKING DARK TYPE. or just a blissey.

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w00t someone doesn't think I'm a n00b at movesets! Score one for the Snorlax!

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It's interesting to note that the Scizor set is ILLEGAL.

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maybe thats why the people got mad at me on net battle.......hehe?

Edit: i'll replace Sub with mintyrest

[ 07-13-2002, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: Tubbers ]

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you really underestimate doubleteam after 5 double teams your nigh impossible to hit, anyway Mewtwos use recover and leftover alot which can make battles go on a VERY long time! iron breaks that patten and allows you to win. plus iron work on prety much everything that psychic don't. i.e. t-tar, blissy(seen it's special defence and hp) Snorlax with amnessia, Lugia and Umberon. which are prety dam coomon in solo.

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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There are many better alternatives, though I don't know why you are even using Mewtwo. It automatically marks you as a n00b, though I can still OHKO you using this nice little Golem set *laughs maniacally* Of course, it requires setup and a good amount of luck just to sacrifice your own Pokemon, which makes Mewtwo even cheaper. Against anything else and I would have attempted to take it down with quake or slide instead of destroying my setup. And after 6 double teams, you still *only* lower their accuracy to 1/3. That is not "near impossible". A DTing Mewtwo is still by far cheap enough for me to immediately stop the battle and flame them all the way to hell and back, however. That damn Recover... And for anyone who cares, I remember taking about another Mewtwo and winning the battle. It went as follows: the opponent was pretty stupid and I just kept using Blissey and Toxicing his pokes (I told him about switching out later), though eventually I was forced to switch or something like that, or I might have just destroyed his whole team like that. Anyways, I came up against Mewtwo (he was nice enough to use him only as a last resort, I respect people who choose not to use him right away, and thus give the opponent more of a chance. We've all had experiences where we eventually kill M2 but the rest of their team destroys the tattered remains). I had 4 Pokemon left, Blissey, Charizard, I *think* Weezing, and Farfetch'd. I Toxic him, he destroys me pretty quickly for some reasong (probably PAR). He proceeds to destroy Weezing in one hit. He than takes Charizard in two. I switch in my last poke, Farfetch'd, He takes a something or other, and Mewtwo (finally), faints. So that is how I took out an M2 using 4 Pokemon on my team and Toxic. Sad, isn't it? I really out to consider that Houndoom. I may actually post a RMT instead or something.

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I hope you guys also didn't forget about the other lovely mewtwo counter, tentacruel! with it's special defense and the fact that it can learn mirror coat, it's very unexpected. i've seen them take a mewtwo psychic and mirror coat it back.

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posted 07-15-2002 12:16 AM      Profile for Tubbers   Author's Homepage   Email Tubbers   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, Psychic SE on: fighting, poison
Steel SE on: Rock, Ice

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The other reason to avoid M2 is that even with submission it has a hard time with T-tar, its 288 special def means ice beam or thunderbolt take time to bring it down and so does submission.

who wants to risk their M2 against a single non-legendary non-curser? nobody and every time you bring it in, if the opponent has T-tar they'll just switch it in and it'll kick the crap out of you unless you switch. Admittedly you probably will bring it down, but it'll leave M2 so beat up its easy pickings for a fast attacker like Jolteon.

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hense the double team.

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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.

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jeez you guys....relax with the newbie shit. Not everyone is a GENIUS like you.....

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Alright, I think my hiatus is over as it's obvious that there's too few of usto stop this board from turning to shit.

Personally, I'd give Mewtwo Solarbeam, Fire Blast (not sure if he can accept Flamethrower in Crystal), Sunny Day and Recover. Back his ass up with a couple of other Pokemon that can take advantage of Sunny Day and you should be able to put up.

If you must have a physical attack I'd go with Submission, Psychic, Recover and either DT or Curse, probably the latter. Leave the other psykers for the rest of your team, though Mewtwo could probably kill them with Submission after a few good Curses.

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Oh, and while I'm here, I find it hilarious that people still bitch about Mewtwo when he's not half as strong as Snorlax, let alone the fact that bans placed on him are accepted almost everywhere.

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The thing about Mewtwo if you are using him it's normaly all by his self. double team for servivabilty (really helps against t-tar) and iron tail becuse it uses his attack (handy against blissy) knocks down defence (other Mewtwos with recover) and type (submision does not work on other Mewtwo's!) see how i use him and why he has his moves?

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The thing about Mewtwo if you are using him it's normaly all by his self.

Err, no.

double team for servivabilty (really helps against t-tar)

I'm the biggest advocate of DT anywhere but Mewtwo can easily take care of Tyranitar with a nice hard Solarbeam, or better yet, Submission.

and iron tail becuse it uses his attack (handy against blissy)

*hork* submission *ick*

He has Recover to deal with the recoil.

knocks down defence (other Mewtwos with recover)

Iron Tail's too crap a move to warrant use on pretty much anything.

and type (submision does not work on other Mewtwo's!) see how i use him and why he has his moves?

There are better ways to get rid of Mewtwo rather than wasting your own.

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Over a full page of posts has been wasted trying to argue the merits (or lack thereof) of Iron Tail, on Mewtwo of all things. WTF.
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mewtwo=newblar
if ur gonna use a mewtwo, use it right.
iron moves sux, even on teh skarm. finally, defeating other mewtwo's is easy. just us a amensia/shadowball mewtwo.
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i once killed a shadow balling mewtwo. and by the way sevral dead Mewtwos and Lugias do rather make me certan of iron tails power (even ammnesia not going to save you against it). the reason i use him solo? to acturly make it fair on my oppoment!
oh and one more point. Mewtwo has 4 move slots you want recover and pcychic for certan. double team really hightens your Mewtwos serviablerty and iron tail works well against pokemon regerly seen in solo.

Mewtwo in my option is under used due to its high power but i belive there things you can do to make his use balanced.you seen Uriu point system for example?

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*strikes you dead* Why can't people read? Or spell? Or both?

And I'm pretty sure it says in there somewhere that Iron Tailing Mewtwos are half price. [Razz]
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This thread is a prime example of what happens to this board when I take a break from training for a year.
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