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Haunter_girl
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posted 06-27-2002 11:25 AM
Do you think this Nidoking would be a good anti-steel Pokemon?
@Soft Sand
Surf
Flamethrower
Earthquake
Return
(I'm not so sure about the last move yet. Maybe I should replace Return..)
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Draco the spirit dragon
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posted 06-27-2002 01:35 PM
deffently, and why the surf? no steel type likes fire.
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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.
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Jolteon X
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posted 06-27-2002 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by Draco the spirit dragon:
deffently, and why the surf? no steel type likes fire.
We've had a surge of dumbass recently, it seems.
Water isn't Super Effective only against fire... a certain quite common steel type is part ground. (Read: Steelix)
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The Great NeoKefka
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posted 06-27-2002 08:59 PM
of course, fire is super effective against steelix, as well as all other steel types. i would go with:
earthquake
horn drill/ice beam/lovely kiss/counter/rest
thunderbolt/thunder
flamethrower/fire blast
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Haunter_girl
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posted 06-28-2002 01:24 AM
Actually fire isn't super-effective against steelix, cause steelix is also type ground. And ground is resistant against fire. That's one thing the surf is for. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I was thinking of using Rest. Maybe I should replace Return with rest. But I was kind of wondering whether Nidoking would be able to survive while he's sleeping, I dunno, or is his defense high enough?
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Jolteon X
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posted 06-28-2002 01:44 AM
Eh. If you can, get a Pokecenter Nido with Lovely Kiss. LK/Earthquake/Counter/Rest sounds like it would work. In all honesty, you don't need to devote an entire pokemon to beating steel, as it is not a common type... only Skarm and the occasional Steelix, both of which die to a Fireblast (Steelix does, due to having shitty SpcDef.)
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The Great NeoKefka
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posted 06-28-2002 01:56 AM
and ground..doesn't resist fire. rock does, but ground doesn't. so yes, steelix is weak to fire..
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Haunter_girl
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posted 06-28-2002 04:01 AM
Pokecenter Nido? From New York? Welp, I doubt I'll get a chance this year or next year or anytime soon to go there. I live in Switzerland. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
**shrugg** Of course I can also use that Nidoking to fight Fire, Ground, Rock, Electric, well, all the types that are weak to fire/water/ground.
I'm not so familiar with Pokemon Stadium, but I thought someone said that there's this rule that you can't put more than one Pokemon to sleep at a time, isn't there? So I'm not so sure about Lovely Kiss..
So, if we ignore the fact that it's a steelkiller, would Flamethrower/Surf/Earthquake/Rest be a generally more or less useful moveset for Nidoking?
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Draco the spirit dragon
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posted 06-28-2002 06:05 PM
nidoking does not have much staying power, so i would ditch the rest (you will be dead in two hits most of the time anyway) through i found counter a useful trick as people try to quake him due to him being part poison, then they get a big shock when he counters!(works very well against t-tar,aerodactly and proberly Machamp through i haven't tried)
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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.
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posted 06-28-2002 07:06 PM
Machamp falls to CounterKing. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
But anyway, Nidoking is damn versatile. My set is EQ/Counter/Lovely Kiss/Ice Beam, but if LK isn't possible, stick Thunderbolt or Fire Blast in its place. That's my two cents.
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Hawk557
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posted 06-28-2002 07:23 PM
Are steels aside from the occasional Skarmory THAT common in the metagame? Do you really need an anti-steel on your team? All ya need is Flamethrower, that's enough to throw off Skarms...in fact, Counter would do just as good or better.
Just wondering.
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jshadias
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posted 06-28-2002 07:28 PM
In NetBattle, the only steels are Forretress and Scizor, who aren't even that common. I haven't seen a single Skarmory, and the only Steelix I've seen is the one I used to use.
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Haunter_girl
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posted 06-29-2002 01:35 AM
Then I guess I'll replace rest with counter, huh?
@Soft Sand
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Surf
Counter
Guess I won't mainly use it against steel then, but I think I'll leave surf cause my team hasn't got a water move yet. Might come in handy.
Although...man, Ice Beam is a good attack too. At least against Flying and Dragon. Are Dragon Pokemon used a lot?
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Pinsir_sama
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posted 06-29-2002 03:03 AM
^_^
nidoking@leftovers
Earthquake
Counter
Fireblast/Thunderbolt/Icebeam
Rest
u would be suprised, BUT THIS WORKZ WITH NIDOQUEEN TOO!!! wow...amazing!
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Haunter_girl
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posted 06-29-2002 07:32 AM
You think I should use rest? I dunno, didn't Draco say Nido doesn't have enough staying power for that?
I still prefer Flamethrower over Fire Blast, though. You know, cause of the higher accuracy.
So I guess at the moment I'm torn between three possible moves for the last one:
Earthquake
Counter
Flamethrower
Surf/Icebeam/Rest
Although I guess I don't need a water move after all, do I? I have earthquake against fire, if I decide on ice beam I can use that against ground..
Or maybe I should use Nidoqueen instead, since she's more defensive. What do you think? Which is better here? Offensive or defensive?
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Pinsir_sama
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posted 06-29-2002 01:16 PM
OMFG DRACO! stfu
ur not supposed to leave nidoking in while it is resting, u switch out and healbell X_X
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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 06-29-2002 04:34 PM
if you want rest over return on your nidoking give it mintberry instead of softsand. Or just try this moveset
nidoking@mintberry
earthquake
counter/submission
horndrill
rest
counter or submission is up to you but i would'nt keep counter in case you are fighting something with high attack power cuz they could kill you in one hit before you even get an attack in. If you can get a nidoqueen get it instead of nidoking cuz they can take more punishment. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Pinsir_sama
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posted 06-29-2002 04:37 PM
1hkos are for newberts...
unless its a dunsparce...
then, DRILL ON
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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 06-29-2002 04:48 PM
Er.. just keep the horndrill even dough it be a peice-o-shit for when your about to die. It's a good going away present. Or just screw it all and teach it lock-on or sumtin then teach it horn drill or fissure.
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Haunter_girl
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posted 06-29-2002 05:23 PM
Leave Counter away? Guess then it would be
@Mintberry
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Icebeam
Rest
huh? And if I replace Nidoking with Nidoqueen, it will probably have enough defense to survive the Rest, waddaya think?
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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 06-29-2002 06:30 PM
sounds good to me. But get a nidoqueen and teach it that moveset
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Draco the spirit dragon
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posted 06-30-2002 11:09 AM
Drop counter? mad people! and what the point of rest?
you get hit and sufer about 50%+ damage (with the very average stats of Nidos this is common)
you rest
you get hit again and your back to square one! (even with a mint berry or heal beller) only pokemon with the staying power should use rest (or leftovers for the matter) unless it can couse status changes and the Nidos aren't one of them. though using queen may be a better idea if your playing defencive through king is better agressivly. (personaly i like to use bright powder on vunerble pokemon, throght i wouldn't not use it on a pokemon that rellys on counter)
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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.
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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 06-30-2002 11:33 PM
instead of teaching your nidoking counter just use one of your fighting pokemon if you have one. I had counter on my nidoking one time and i was fighting a scyther with swordsdance and slash and in one shot it killed me. But if you don't have any fighting pokemon then go ahead and teach it counter.
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Draco the spirit dragon
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posted 07-01-2002 05:14 PM
SpunkDawg4-Life why would you hit a fighting type with pysical attack? there generly resistance to pyshical attacks and people generly psy them, Nido get psy alot too but they get quaked too then you counter!(that the victam of this attack) by the way I've been caught by stat increase attack too (a cursetar of all things)but there not that common and if you see one switch to your hazer or roarer.
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I've desidered since I can't get my Nidoking Gorkamorka into R/S he's be killed and reincarnated as a Metagross.
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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 07-01-2002 06:20 PM
i don't know ![[Confused]](confused.gif) I guess you should listen to draco and use counter.
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Haunter_girl
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posted 07-05-2002 05:08 PM
OK, Nidoqueen then. But which move should I replace with Counter? Rest? Icebeam?
@Mintberry
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Icebeam
Rest
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SpunkDawg4-Life
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posted 07-05-2002 05:40 PM
Er...this is a tough one... since you would only be able to use rest once with mintberry...you should probably get rid of rest and try leftovers or bright powder as an item.Er..i'm not to good with a nidoking or queen..but that sounds like a good moveset to me.
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Haunter_girl
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posted 07-14-2002 03:12 PM
Is there actually a rule in certain PKMN matches, like on Stadium or whatever, that you aren't allowed to have the same item on two Pokemon of your party? Cause I already have a Pokemon with a Leftovers on the party I want that Nidoqueen for.
K, so I guess it's
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Icebeam
Counter
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