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Jolt135
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posted 07-15-2001 10:35 AM      Profile for Jolt135   Author's Homepage   Email Jolt135   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am another TPM crossover (although I only had 185 posts there). This board seems better because there aren’t as many n00bs, although I must admit it’s fun to beat the holy s**t out of them. Anyway, my mostly-genderless team was not taken kindly to by TPM, but like I said, there are a lot of n00bs there. I’ve had a long time to figure out how to cover a legendary team’s weaknesses, and I found that this one certainly works.

Raikou@nevermeltice Thunderbolt/Crunch/HP Ice/Reflect
My tried-and-true set, nicknamed “Sparky”. As you may remember, that was also the name of Richie’s Pikachu in the TV show. However, it’s safe to say no Pikachu will beat it 1-on-1. It lost 4 defense points for HP Ice (I prefer that for slot 4 because it keeps the health at 383 and also beats Grass), but with Reflect it doesn’t mean much. HP will score a 2-hit KO on a Dragonite. I used to put Magnet on, but I changed that once I figured out that the opponent is more likely to take a Raikou with a Ground-type than a Water-type, so NMI will give its 10% boost more often. “Sparky” has become the lead Pokémon, because it can beat the popular Starmie lead easily.

Mewtwo@twistedspoon Psychic/Flamethrower/Safeguard/Recover
Basic Safeguarding Mewtwo with Flamethrower as the fourth slot. I put it there for Skarmory and Scizor. Mewtwo puts up an easy KO on Machamp and will shut down every Parafusionist except Electrode with no problems. The only real threat is Tyranitar, who can deal it up to 213 damage with Crunch. Most other damage is just Recovered away.

Starmie@brightpowder Surf/Thunder Wave/Confuse Ray/Recover
The classic Parafusionist Starmie. Starmie is definitely one of the top 2 or 3 Pokémon for the job. Brightpowder over King’s Rock, because the odds are about the same, and King’s Rock just makes them flinch whereas a missed attack actually wastes the opponent’s PP. (Don’t you get the sense that I am trying to decrease the popularity of Attract?)

Tyranitar@quick claw Crunch/Ancientpower/Earthquake/Ice Beam
Change “TY” in Tyranitar to “E”, rearrange the letters, and you have “Anti-Rare”. Perfect description, huh? Ancientpower when you can’t get an SE hit, because one boost gives it an Attack of 549 and Speed of 330! It also beats Lugia in 3, just like Rock Slide. Ice Beam is for Meganium and Gligar, and if you’re facing a Mewtwo whose stats are even ONE POINT off of maximum, you can get a OHKO with one crit-hit on Crunch.

Skarmory@mint berry Curse/Drill Peck/Whirlwind/Rest
Another experimental set, as I try Curse where most people use Swagger. NickWak is totally screwed against it, since you can Whirlwind it away (and it takes AT LEAST 3 hits to kill it even before Curse, if there are no crit-hits) and while the enemy tries to get it started again, keep Cursing and drop a Drill Peck or two when ready.

Snorlax@leftovers Curse/Rest/Frustration/Earthquake or Shadow Ball
Oh yeah, and then there’s Curselax. I prefer Frustration to DE, because there’s no recoil which spares you from using Rest as often. The fourth slot changes periodically: Shadow Ball can OHKO Mewtwo after just 4 Curses while EQ can’t even do it after 6, but Earthquake can beat the Tyranitar that tears apart half this team.


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We don't use those little Pokemon icons here...

Is it so hard to just type their names?


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Jolt135
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posted 07-15-2001 11:11 AM      Profile for Jolt135   Author's Homepage   Email Jolt135   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fine. I changed it.

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Raikou: Good. Maybe a miracle berry.

Mewtwo: If it's a safeguarder, give it miracle berry.

Starmie: brightpowder is not that good without other evasive moves, so maybe minimise over Confuse ray, otherwise keep king's rock as the item. I like Lanturn as a parafusionist due to fewer weaknesses.

Tyranitar: I like restberry over ice beam, or Fire Blast, but change the item to a scope lens.

Skarmory: I use swagger over rest, but keep rest.

Snorlax: Curselax. I hate this guy. Try belly drum, double edge/frustration, rest, double team.

Overall: no huge weaknesses, but you have no hazer. Also, try leading with mewtwo to pass safeguard, then switch to starmie or raikou. Or just Snorlax.

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How to ruin a Snorlax:
@everstone
defense curl
tackle
amnesia
harden


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Raikou: 9+/10: Real good I like your moveset.

Mewtwo: 8/10: I agree with Thumbsofsteel if it's a safe guarder give it miracle berry.

Starmie: 7/10: Brightpowder is not that good without other evasive moves, so maybe minimise over Confuse ray, otherwise keep king's rock as the item.

Skarmory: 9/10: Fine

Snorlax: 8/10: Fine as a curselax!

Tyranitar: 8+/10: My moveset: Rock slide
Earthquake
Iron tail
Crunch

But yours is fine


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Jolt135
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Mewtwo: I'm not too sure about Miracleberry...after all, it does have 358 speed and will outrun everyone except Electrode. But I might go back to King's Rock on Starmie because although Brightpowder is a PP waster, it's unlikely I'll ever be able to blow THAT many PP. And I do have a pseudohazer *points to Skarmory*.

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Jolt135
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In addition, I have tested it out, and decided to swap the items on Skarmory and Snorlax. Here are the Nicknames I gave them, if you want to know:

Raikou - Sparky
Mewtwo - Ultimatum
Starmie - phEEr (they won't let me use 3's in the name)
Tyranitar - Anti-Rare
Skarmory - Deterrent
Snorlax - curselax (note all lowercase)

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quote:
Originally posted by Houndoom:
Tyranitar: 8+/10: My moveset: Rock slide
Earthquake
Iron tail
Crunch

Iron tail??? Isn't that a very horrible attack? Or am I that stupid?


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quote:
Originally posted by Zerot:
Iron tail??? Isn't that a very horrible attack? Or am I that stupid?

15PP, 75% acc, 100 base, IIRC.

SE vs. Rock(for which there is already quake), and Ice(for which there is already RS. So yeah, I don't see the point of having it on TTar. Unless you're trying to drop the defense or something, but that's probably not good strategy on something with a 4x weakness.

So yeah, basically, Iron Tail isn't that good....

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Yeah, 358 speed is fine, but you'll be switching it in, so miracleberry is needed to stay paralysis free.

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How to ruin a Snorlax:
@everstone
defense curl
tackle
amnesia
harden


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I know iron tail dosen't appear very good on Ttar but it works very well forme against fighting, flying and electric pokes when i am out of pp for r~slide and e~quake.

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You'd be better off w/ return.. or any other physical move for that matter.. or just stop using EQ against flying pokes to waste the 16 pp it has..

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Jolt135
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Mewtwo with Miracleberry still isn't a good idea IMO. I know not to switch it in against Starmie or something; first because both damage moves are NVE, second because Skarmory is my designated "status absorber". So, I switch in Skarmory against a likely status-inflicting opponent, then after it's been paralyzed or whatever, I bring in Mewtwo. Skarmory can just Rest it off anyway.

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Jolt135
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I I had to give Miracleberry to someone, I'd probably go with Raikou. After all, it IS the starter. Come to think of it, boost items aren't helping much.

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What happens after Skarmory dies. He isn't that hard to kill with special attacks. They'll see what you're doing after a while and use surf or T-bolt on the switch-in, and Skarmory won't hold up well.

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How to ruin a Snorlax:
@everstone
defense curl
tackle
amnesia
harden


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*bump*

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