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Atma
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posted 08-21-2000 08:17 PM      Profile for Atma   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I tried this on Stadium... I used Caterpie, Krabby, Kabuto, and gengar against Ditto (all level 50 mrentals). Ditto transformed into Caterpie, then I ran him out of PP. Struggle did 11 damage each to Kabuto amd Krabby (both of whom had the same Defense), igrnoring Kabuto's rockness, and against gengar did a critical hit for 29, followed by a normal hit for 17.

So, at least in Stadium, Struggle ignores type differences

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Mr. K
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posted 08-24-2000 02:39 AM      Profile for Mr. K   Author's Homepage   Email Mr. K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just wanted to mention that I'm not ignoring this one, I just haven't had time to test it.

It wouldn't surprise me if something else changed in Stadium...

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posted 08-30-2000 07:57 PM      Profile for Marril     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bide afects ghosts... so does Counter (I think)...

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Speaking of Ghosts, isnt there a Ghost in GS called "Muma?" Or pehaps I spelled it wrong.

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posted 09-04-2000 07:56 PM      Profile for Starshelle   Email Starshelle   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah it's spelled Muuma or something along those lines. I think the unconfirmed English name for her is Trillix, and she's pure ghost.

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Sweet! I've already known there was a Pure ghost, but each time I hear it I just cant help but pump my fist into the air and say YES as loud as I can in a pubic place.

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posted 09-05-2000 03:05 PM      Profile for Psybro   Email Psybro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Vaporeon of the mist:
Sweet! I've already known there was a Pure ghost, but each time I hear it I just cant help but pump my fist into the air and say YES as loud as I can in a pubic place.



I'm pretty sure you meant public place, not pubic place. But anyway, unfortuneatly Muuma's stats are crappy.

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posted 09-05-2000 05:00 PM      Profile for Cesar   Email Cesar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is there anything super effective against ghost like the new steel/dark types?

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posted 09-05-2000 07:47 PM      Profile for Starshelle   Email Starshelle   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I'm by far no G/S expert, but I've heard mixed reviews about Trillix stats.

At the best, I've read she has average stats, and not being poisen makes her more useful than Gengar. Then of course, at worst it could be just like Psybro says: crappy.

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posted 09-06-2000 01:55 AM      Profile for White Cat   Author's Homepage   Email White Cat      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
<plug>From my comprehensive G/S Pokedex,</plug> her base stats are:

HP:60
At:60
De:60
SpA:85
SpD:85
Spe:85
Total = 435

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However, it does learn Share Pain, to make up for the HP deficiency.

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As well as grudge, which steals the PP away from the last attack used on you! Very nice!

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posted 08-01-2002 02:47 PM      Profile for White Cat   Author's Homepage   Email White Cat      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just noticed that the Struggle page still doesn't mention that the attack affects Ghosts in Stadium.

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quote:
Originally posted by White Cat:
I just noticed that the Struggle page still doesn't mention that the attack affects Ghosts in Stadium.

I was under the impression that Struggle affected Ghosts in all versions. These bumps are great because you find out stuff like this.

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Atma
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posted 08-01-2002 10:19 PM      Profile for Atma   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by White Cat:
I just noticed that the Struggle page still doesn't mention that the attack affects Ghosts in Stadium.

Or RBY...

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Because it is a Normal type attack, it cannot affect Ghost Pokémon.

Struggle is typeless, not normal.

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Even though it's not normal, the game says its normal doesn't it? Someone needs to have Porygon use Conversion2 after struggle has been used and see what happens.

Maybe it will fail like it does when you use it after curse?

I figure it will consider it a normal attack even though it isn't one...

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Chrisodeo
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posted 08-26-2002 04:14 PM      Profile for Chrisodeo   Author's Homepage   Email Chrisodeo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Struggle is Normal, just like Hidden Power is. Its only Normal in appearance. In reality, its typeless.
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What the hell ever happened to VOTM?
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