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kikered
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posted 03-13-2001 08:09 AM      Profile for kikered   Email kikered   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A question about Barrier and Light Screen. If you Barrier up all the way and then use Reflect, does the "50% Defense Boost" 50% of your original Defense or 50% of your modified Defense? It might work very well as a "Super Defense" thing for things with very low Defense.

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ickle
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posted 03-13-2001 12:33 PM      Profile for ickle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure that it is your original defence that increases by 50% and not your mofified defence.

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posted 03-13-2001 02:50 PM      Profile for Mr. K   Author's Homepage   Email Mr. K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The whole story can be found here:
http://azureheights.com/attacks/comp/statmods.htm

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posted 03-13-2001 07:07 PM      Profile for Automaton   Author's Homepage   Email Automaton   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm pretty sure that Reflect halves your def and quarters your opponent's atk. So if you barrier three times, then Reflect, your final value would be 200% of it's original, and your opponent would be at 50% atk. This is to prevent exceeding the cap, which would crash you back down to single digits.


The above statement is in reference to GS mechanics as outlined at PD.
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posted 03-14-2001 12:39 PM      Profile for cfalcon   Email cfalcon   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Couldn't it just apply the variables later? Like as in, after the mysterious 10 bit cap was applied? Do you have numerical evidence for this assertion? That would mean that it would have to re-quarter the attack of new monsters as they switched in...

Basically, do you have any test data?

Wouldn't that show up in the older test?


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posted 03-14-2001 05:24 PM      Profile for Automaton   Author's Homepage   Email Automaton   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was simply quoting what is on Darryn's move intro at PD. And since Reflect and Light Screen are global effect moves, you would NOT have to reuse it in case of a switch, for the same reason you wouldn't have to reuse it if you switched.

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posted 03-14-2001 06:06 PM      Profile for Mr. K   Author's Homepage   Email Mr. K   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmmm...I think we're having a chromatic/metallic disconnect...
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I tested this a while ago by using Relfect and multiple Curses together. It turns out that it resets your defense just like Marowak's attack can reset when it has the Thick Club. When a level 100 max defense, 519 HP Snorlax is killed by a single Body Slam from Red's Snorlax one begins to suspect things.

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