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posted 12-14-2003 06:43 AM
obligatory omgwtf topic
So, uh, good job to the military and all.
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posted 12-14-2003 06:47 AM
obligatory omgfakedconspiracywtf post.
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posted 12-14-2003 07:49 AM
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posted 12-14-2003 09:04 AM
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posted 12-14-2003 10:43 AM
Wow. Got him alive too.
Bush is going to be giggling with joy in his address this afternoon, I'll bet.
The biggest question is whether or not this will have any impact on the insurgents. Obviously this is a huge political victory for Bush either way, but it'd be nice to be able to move on from all this and be able to return full resources to the real fight.
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posted 12-14-2003 10:46 AM
Mazeltov!!!
In other news, the snow delayed my trip to Best Buy where I would have bought a Tivo.
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posted 12-14-2003 12:34 PM
Yes, this is very strong, good news.
Hopefully the resistance will sort of weaken. That would be good.
I think the real question, is "How smart is Saddam?"
See, he had the ear and trust of Arabia, before the US invaded. When he said that it was a lie that US troops were driving through Baghdad, in the airport, etc...
The Saudis believed him. They were SO DIVORCED FROM REALITY that they believed that info. minister over all the footage which they dismissed as coming straight out of Hollywood.
So whether they admit it or not, they had a level of trust in this fellow Arab of theirs.
The question is, does he play on US hatred in whatever he gets to say next, or does he just come across as the powermad dictator that he is? Does he try to feed a coalition of psychofuckers aimed at New York with backpacks full of bombs, or does he just serve as a walking satire of evil men?
I hope he is not smart.
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posted 12-14-2003 01:30 PM
I hope they captured a double...like Francie...omg alias........omgggggggggggggggggggggg
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posted 12-14-2003 02:25 PM
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posted 12-14-2003 07:50 PM
In the end, he is a coward and cowards usually cooperate. I am glad we caught the son of a bitch. But, I would not be surprised if he remains a jerk and doesn't cooperate. Time will tell...
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posted 12-14-2003 09:11 PM
I don't get this at all.
You came in looking for WMD, and you leave with a live dictator. You change your whole focus of what you went into war for, and the people accept it. The entire focus should have been on getting rid of Saddam, not having Bush play around with his toys and people's lives.
I can bet Hussein himself is going to be tortured for a while. Two wrongs make a right I guess. I mean, you are dealing with a texan who knows the meaning of death row.
I'm not tring to be entirely pro-Hussein, but if you want him gone, there was probably better options out there.
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posted 12-14-2003 10:20 PM
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The entire focus should have been on getting rid of Saddam
That WAS the official focus of the war. Sure, the liberals chose their own focus, but thats besides the point...
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posted 12-14-2003 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Charmeleon42:
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The entire focus should have been on getting rid of Saddam
That WAS the official focus of the war. Sure, the liberals chose their own focus, but thats besides the point...
Yeah, except no - not the only focus. Ever heard of WOMDs?
It's much more convenient to level stupid accusations about "the liberals" than it is to examine the reasons we actually invaded. What was Bush doing when he showed the nation fuzzy pictures of shit in Saddam's backyard?
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posted 12-14-2003 11:36 PM
The WMD's were the reasons that Saddam needed to be taken out of power. The justification per se. The war itself had the focus of toppling Saddam from power. That's why Bush declared the end of the war on the aircraft carrier - because the goal had been achieved.
And why I mentioned the liberals is because they claim things like, for example, the whole war was solely for getting oil. Certainly it's not the conservatives who are pulling those sorts of things out of their rectums.
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posted 12-15-2003 01:41 AM
I want to kill a Republican every time Charmeleon42 posts
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posted 12-15-2003 01:51 AM
Don't feel bad, K talks about loading them into ovens and things.
don't get this at all.
You came in looking for WMD, and you leave with a live dictator. You change your whole focus of what you went into war for, and the people accept it.
Look, I never thought it was about WMDs. That was fucking obvious. If they had them, they weren't aimed at us yet. It isn't like that was the reason. We wanted him out because he was hostile to some obvious interests of ours... and probably there were some other reasons that everyone keeps trying to guess at, because actually DOING the war was rather puzzling.
When was the point about WMDs? Nowhen.
The real thing you should be complaining about is probably what you've been bitching about the whole time... "What is this about?"
Because, as I've said before, the party of "We need to invade Iraq" is the party of "We are not the world's policeman".
The entire focus should have been on getting rid of Saddam, not having Bush play around with his toys and people's lives.
I think the whole focus WAS about Saddam.
I mean, my friends and I joked before electing Bush about the fact that he would be going into Iraq... the reason? Unfinished business with Saddam.
I can bet Hussein himself is going to be tortured for a while.
I'll bet you are dead wrong.
I'll bet he'll be treated sorta roughly, but we can't afford to be seen as brutal in international cirles. The Europeans already fairly view us as selfish and arrogant. Their other claims are pretty much just hot air- but we don't need to lend them credence.
Two wrongs make a right I guess.
You aren't giving our boys or our process enough credit.
I mean, you are dealing with a texan who knows the meaning of death row.
And I'll bet he's trying to get a hanging judge for some kind of trial right now. But we might try to appease the more cultured Europeans by just finding him guilty of, you know, all the horrible shit he's done, and locking him up. They don't like us executing our own citizens, so I can see what they wouldn't like about this.
I'm not tring to be entirely pro-Hussein, but if you want him gone, there was probably better options out there.
It could have been done better, sure.
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posted 12-15-2003 02:45 AM
Whoa. They captured that Hagrid dude from Harry Potter.
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posted 12-15-2003 03:37 AM
Look, I never thought it was about WMDs. That was fucking obvious. If they had them, they weren't aimed at us yet. It isn't like that was the reason. We wanted him out because he was hostile to some obvious interests of ours... and probably there were some other reasons that everyone keeps trying to guess at, because actually DOING the war was rather puzzling.
When was the point about WMDs? Nowhen.
Swallow a package of razor blades, one at a time.
I know what you're saying is that you never believed that WMDs were the real reason, even though they were clearly the primary stated reason. Fine, but then what's this "we" shit? As in, "We wanted him out because he was hostile to some obvious interests of ours..." Because although there was hardly a referendum on whether to invade, everyone understood that Bush needed to give a sufficient reason. You know, so that it would have the support of the American people. As in "We, the people..." Is a problem becoming clear to you yet?
Cesar's question is a good one, and for drooling retards like Char I'll spell it out even more simply. Merkins, even prior to being stung, scared, and self-centred after 9/11, indicated NO possibility of supporting an invasion for reasons of, e.g.: nation-building, sowings seeds of democracy, or deposing a mass-murdering tyrant. (Even back in the day, Bush Sr. really had to pound on the "Hitler reborn" note. Now? Fuck it, we're a decade further from WWII, he's just killing other towelheads, and Alias is on.) So, Junior made the pitch linked above, and the people bought it.
Well, the reason given has turned out to be a joke. The interesting bit is: how should Americans react now that Saddam has been caught? Supportive of the Iraqis, who are freed of a very bad man? Sure. But maybe a little sheepish, because they would never have supported the action if that were all that was at stake? Maybe a little cranky with W, for selling them such a lemon, and for leaving everyone wondering "What is this about?" when they thought that they were living in a democracy?
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posted 12-15-2003 08:52 AM
short essay i wrote for english on the subject
First, why is there virtually no international support to topple Saddam? If Iraq's WMD program truly possessed the threat level that President Bush has repeatedly purported, why is there no international coalition to militarily disarm Saddam? Secondly, despite over 300 unfettered U.N inspections to date, there has been no evidence reported of a reconstituted Iraqi WMD program. Third, and despite Bush's rhetoric, the CIA has not found any links between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. To the contrary, some analysts believe it is far more likely Al Qaeda might acquire an unsecured former Soviet Union Weapon(s) of Mass Destruction, or potentially from sympathizers within a destabilized Pakistan.
Moreover, immediately following Congress's vote on the Iraq Resolution, we suddenly became aware of North Korea's nuclear program violations. Kim Jong Il is processing uranium in order to produce nuclear weapons this year. President Bush has not provided a rational answer as to why Saddam's seemingly dormant WMD program possesses a more imminent threat that North Korea's active program?
The upcoming war in Iraq war is mostly about how the ruling class at Langley and the Bush oligarchy view hydrocarbons at the geo-strategic level, and the overarching macroeconomic threats to the U.S. dollar from the euro. The Real Reason for this upcoming war is this administration's goal of preventing further OPEC momentum towards the euro as an oil transaction currency standard. However, in order to pre-empt OPEC, they need to gain geo-strategic control of Iraq along with its 2nd largest proven oil reserves.
Baghdad's switch from the dollar to the euro for oil trading is intended to rebuke Washington's hard-line on sanctions and encourage Europeans to challenge it. But the political message will cost Iraq millions in lost revenue. At the time of the switch many analysts were surprised that Saddam was willing to give up millions in oil revenue for what appeared to be a political statement. However, the steady depreciation of the dollar versus the euro since late 2001 means that Iraq has profited handsomely from the switch in their reserve and transaction currencies. The euro has gained roughly 17% against the dollar in that time, which also applies to the $10 billion in Iraq's U.N. "oil for food" reserve fund that was previously held in dollars has also gained that same percent value since the switch. What would happen if OPEC made a sudden switch to euros, as opposed to a gradual transition?
The effect of an OPEC switch to the euro would be that oil-consuming nations would have to flush dollars out of their (central bank) reserve funds and replace these with euros. The dollar would crash anywhere from 20-40% in value and the consequences would be those one could expect from any currency collapse and massive inflation (think Argentina currency crisis, for example). You'd have foreign funds stream out of the U.S. stock markets and dollar denominated assets, there'd surely be a run on the banks much like the 1930s, the current account deficit would become unserviceable, the budget deficit would go into default, and so on. Your basic 3rd world economic crisis scenario.
The United States economy is intimately tied to the dollar's role as reserve currency. This doesn't mean that the U.S. couldn't function otherwise, but that the transition would have to be gradual to avoid such dislocations (and the ultimate result of this would probably be the U.S. and the E.U. switching roles in the global economy).
In the aftermath of toppling Saddam it is clear the U.S. will keep a large and permanent military force in the Persian Gulf. Indeed, there is no "exit strategy" in Iraq, as the military will be needed to protect the newly installed Iraqi regime, and perhaps send a message to other OPEC producers that they might receive "regime change" if they too move to euros for their oil exports
Yes, America should keep fighting because we love our low gas prices and it will ultimately boost flag sales ![[Smile]](smile.gif) It's also interesting to note that now the U.S. has two military presences on both sides of Iran- one in Afghanistan and one in Iraq.
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posted 12-15-2003 11:02 AM
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When was the point about WMDs? Nowhen.
When you were Tony Blair it was.
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posted 12-15-2003 11:37 AM
he'll be hangin' from a noose soon =o
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posted 12-15-2003 12:19 PM
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Amen. According to Char42, if you aren't a Republican, go burn in hell, and make the world a better place.
Stupid right-wing. [And now Canada has a PM who's more of a Right-winger than half of the Conservative party.... ugh]
Also, how could WoMD's not be one of the reasons for going in (Or something of equal importance, i.e. convincing the Merkins that its a good thing to go in with an army, etc. etc.) to Iraq, when Bush would all-but stutter violently and choke whenever he used a sentence that didn't contain the words "Weapons of Mass Destruction"? Especially with his comments to the "Smoking Gun" and such: Attack them before they attack us.
Of course the reasoning fell apart when they found nothing. I'm surprised they didn't "find" stuff yet, what with all the capability to plant it, and to make themselves appear less of an ass than they already have made themselves out to be.
Yes, finding Saddam... sure, I suppose it's good. They're having troubles deciding who's going to try him: Mad Iraqis, or Mad Merkins, but I get the feeling he's going to die, one way or another. Be it "on his way to the prison", or a death sentence, he's not going to live long.
Well, actually, he'll live long enough to say whatever the Americans want him to say. They have their ways of torturing people to talk [Be it sending people to Syrian prison, or doing it themselves: See any review on Maher Arar for proof of such things], and they'll "convince" him to "remember" about those WoMD's he was either making, or planning or making, and his "connections" to Al Quaeda, etc.
Now that the Merkins have him, is there any way we can trust what he says? Even moreso than before... He was going to lie about whatever could help his 'case', I'll wajor, but the Merkins are going to make him dance to their song before he croaks.
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posted 12-15-2003 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by EspeonNidoking:
he'll be hangin' from a noose soon =o
Who, Tony Blair? Quite right.
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Originally posted by Charmeleon42:
And why I mentioned the liberals is because they claim things like, for example, the whole war was solely for getting oil. Certainly it's not the conservatives who are pulling those sorts of things out of their rectums.
I'm so glad your conservative government showed the UN those blueprints of WMD trucks! By golly, it was like Adlai Stevenson in the Cuban Missile Crisis, except without any clear and present danger being involved!
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posted 12-15-2003 02:29 PM
hay guys I know who the real hero is!!1
Ned, remember when we talked about pre-emptive ad hominems?
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posted 12-15-2003 02:46 PM
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he'll be hangin' from a noose soon =o
Who, Tony Blair? Quite right.
no the person on trial for committing war crimes.
remember the nazis?
yah sadam will be lynched. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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posted 12-15-2003 02:53 PM
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hay guys I know who the real hero is!!1
Classic.
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posted 12-15-2003 04:05 PM
we don't want him dead, we'd rather him rot in jail till he's old an dies... if we kill him outright, to some of his idiot followers he'll be seen as a martyr/hero... and we don't want that...
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posted 12-15-2003 04:17 PM
the nazis were seen as martyrs when they were hung for their crimes?
nah don't think so
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posted 12-15-2003 04:21 PM
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the nazis were seen as martyrs when they were hung for their crimes?
nah don't think so
yeah, I suppose your right. Alot of people want him dead... But I would rather him be jailed for life and raped/tortured on a daily basis...
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posted 12-15-2003 04:37 PM
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But I would rather him be jailed for life and raped/tortured on a daily basis...
also mk you're going to hell because saying that is not how God would want you to talk...imagine if i let your church know you said that!
that's a weird fetish you got ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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posted 12-15-2003 07:45 PM
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I'll bet you are dead wrong.
I'll bet he'll be treated sorta roughly, but we can't afford to be seen as brutal in international cirles. The Europeans already fairly view us as selfish and arrogant. Their other claims are pretty much just hot air- but we don't need to lend them credence.
If what I heard is correct (and I heard this today), it seems that the people of Iraq get the final say in what happens to Hussein.
I can see Hussein put to the torch. I can see him getting tortured. Then again, I can also see him having a fair(?) trial, and put to death by the decision of the courts. And then again, I can see him spend the rest of his life in jail like any other man, only without the torture part.
It all depends how humane and merciful you can be to a leader that once gassed an entire village in his own country.
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posted 12-16-2003 06:39 PM
Saddam being dropped into Central Park and getting beat to death by seven million crazed Noo Yawkers while the cops turn a blind eye = ratings gold
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posted 12-17-2003 12:35 AM
you think we'd beat his ass?
how about dropping him for the iraqis that he's abused and literally killed for so many years.
i think they'd want him more than random new yorkers would. :\
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posted 12-17-2003 02:41 AM
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By golly, it was like Adlai Stevenson in the Cuban Missile Crisis, except without any clear and present danger being involved!
Adlai Stevenson is the true identity of Gogo.
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posted 12-17-2003 06:43 AM
Yea, why would New Yorkers want to kick his ass any more than, say, Miamians or San Fransiscans?
And none of us would want to beat him to a pulp like his own countrymen, who he murdered en masse. Or maybe the Iranians, who he waged war against? How about he Israelis, whom he antagonized by mailing massive checks (ten thousand dollars a pop, total of 35 million) to Palestinians who were related to suicide bombers... funding a horrible practice?
Why New Yorkers?
The only reason you would think this is if you think Saddam did that 9/11 thing.
Well, he didn't.
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posted 12-17-2003 08:50 AM
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posted 12-17-2003 03:51 PM
i need more luv
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posted 12-18-2003 10:31 AM
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Well, actually, he'll live long enough to say whatever the Americans want him to say. They have their ways of torturing people to talk [Be it sending people to Syrian prison, or doing it themselves: See any review on Maher Arar for proof of such things], and they'll "convince" him to "remember" about those WoMD's he was either making, or planning or making, and his "connections" to Al Quaeda, etc.
Now that the Merkins have him, is there any way we can trust what he says? Even moreso than before... He was going to lie about whatever could help his 'case', I'll wajor, but the Merkins are going to make him dance to their song before he croaks.
Well, it's confirmed: Merka is pulling out the 1984 'tortures'(They're not calling it torture, mind) on him, to, and I quote, "try to break him". And, as any testimony to this type of 'questioning' works: You do whatever you can to make the whole ordeal stop. The 'idea' is to true and induce a Stockholm Syndrome on the guy, so he'll tell them everything nicely, blah blah blah.
More likely he'll snap and admit to whatever they want him to admit to. Just like those kids in California, I think the Touson 4 or whatever they were [Saw this on some show like "Americas most wanted" or something some time back], when they caught some kids as 'suspects' to murdering a bunch of priests/buddhists/something during a robbery, and they questioned them so horribly that they admitted to doing it all, even though they didn't [the wrong DNA or some such proved it wasn't them].
As for said ad hominems, WhiteCat... Can you honestly say that you believed he was going to tell the truth, beforehand? Plus, with this torture, which has been shown numerous times to force people to admit whatever the captures want, can you honestly say that whatever he says is going to be true, too?
Mind, don't forget, though, that there is no "truth" to the matter: He knows what he knows, other people know what they know, and it's all subjective and opinionated, etc... More importantly than forcing him to answer dozens of questions about the incidences back in Gulf War, WoMD's, etc. would be to find out why.
At least, that's my outlook.
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White Cat
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posted 12-18-2003 02:49 PM
Well, it's confirmed: Merka is pulling out the 1984 'tortures'(They're not calling it torture, mind) on him, to, and I quote, "try to break him".
post proof plz
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Rolken
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posted 12-18-2003 07:23 PM
You think they're interrogating him just to get him to confess?
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Anthrax
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posted 12-18-2003 08:44 PM
Stockholm Syndrome is a good song.
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She told The Associated Press she first realized her son was mentally ill in 1996 when he killed her oldest child, a 25-year-old woman who suffered from cerebral palsy, by beating her with a dumbbell.
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Mr. K
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posted 12-18-2003 10:58 PM
One of the funniest things I saw was Rumsfeld saying that Saddam was going to be treated as a POW under the Geneva Convention. He said it repeatedly, just so he could be clear that he was lying. POWs are not supposed to be subjected to "public curiosity", yet all day long we watched pictures of Saddam being inspected for head lice.
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Rolken
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posted 01-11-2004 01:58 PM
I'd post a news story here about Bush announcing Saddam was a POW a few days ago, but I can't find it so just take my word for it.
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Sniper404
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posted 01-12-2004 08:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Anthrax:
[QB]Stockholm Syndrome is a good song.
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Muse's Stockholm Syndrome > Blink-182's Stockholm Syndrome
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