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 spunman Farting Nudist Member # 1181 posted 04-05-2001 12:49 AM                 ahoy, all. been testing again and found out some cool stuff about rage. since i haven't seen ANYTHING about it anywhere (for g/s) and i'm unable to check it against the actual game code, some of it is educated guessing.rage does not raise the grade (max of 6) of your attack stat as do other stat raising attacks. the damage it does rises much to quickly for this to be the case. it also continues to rise, running out of pp with an attack stat near or over 10,000 for a spinarak with an actual attack of 18! so i ran through several battles with that spinarak against a maxed out quagsire with false swipe (which still raises attack against rage). ran all the numbers through an excel spreadsheet and here's what i've come up with:an unknown multiplier exists in the battle damage formula for g/s, which starts at 1. when a pokémon's rage builds, this multiplier raises. over the course of several battles, exhausting rage's pp against false swipe each time, i've concluded that this multiplier in the battle damage formula is raised by a number between .92 and .95, though those numbers themselves are outside the correct range. my educated guess is that it's 236/255. since the random number applied at the end of the formula is 217 to 255, 236 would be considered the average. so i plugged 236/255 into the excel spreadsheet and it works like a charm!so here we go:integer of ((((lvl*2/5)+2)*atk*pow/def/50)+2)*stab*typ*rage*rnd/255where:atk is attacker's attackpow is attack's powerdef is defender's defensestab is same type attack bonustyp is type difference bonusrage is (1+(hits*236/255))rnd is a random number (217-255)comments?------------------i am the sandshrew! cu-cu-kachoo! "use a slowpoke tail and pretend it's a dildo. i do it all the time!" - onix12"poli!!! :@ whoo! a poli smiley... well, kinda..." - kerokato From: the middle | Registered: Nov 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Yay Porygon Farting Nudist Member # 810 Member Rated: posted 04-05-2001 01:29 AM                        Nice work. And just as I was planning a Rage-based set for GSC this morning...heh. That's a dang powerful Spinarak: how could you tell about the 10.000 Att though?------------------Oy. From: Peregrine Island | Registered: Aug 2000  |  IP: Logged
 spunman Farting Nudist Member # 1181 posted 04-05-2001 01:57 AM                 well, it was actually only 6,923.3333i guesstimated in the post cuz i didn't feel like whipping out the calculator to get the exact number. i just remembered it was in the high thousands.how? just ran it through the battle damage formula backwards. got it right here at azure.------------------i am the sandshrew! cu-cu-kachoo! "use a slowpoke tail and pretend it's a dildo. i do it all the time!" - onix12"poli!!! :@ whoo! a poli smiley... well, kinda..." - kerokato From: the middle | Registered: Nov 2000  |  IP: Logged
 kelv Farting Nudist Member # 843 posted 04-06-2001 12:20 AM                     I don't get the "hits" part. Can you please explain? Registered: Aug 2000  |  IP: Logged
 spunman Farting Nudist Member # 1181 posted 04-06-2001 12:37 AM                 "hits" are the hits the pokémon takes after it starts using rage, when it says the pokémon's "rage is building". it starts off at 0 and each time the "rage is building" message appears, "hits" increases by 1.------------------i am the sandshrew! cu-cu-kachoo! "use a slowpoke tail and pretend it's a dildo. i do it all the time!" - onix12"poli!!! :@ whoo! a poli smiley... well, kinda..." - kerokato From: the middle | Registered: Nov 2000  |  IP: Logged
 spunman Farting Nudist Member # 1181 posted 06-03-2001 02:12 AM                 gah, my bdf's been so totally fucked up from the start. had the integer functions all wrong. anywho, i've got everything working correctly now, and all the numbers are crunching through the formulae just fine. ignore all that .92/.95 and 236/255 karp. it's wrong. int((int(int(int(lvl*2/5+2)*atk*pow/def)/50)+2)*stab*typ*rage*rnd/255)where:atk is attacker's attackpow is attack's powerdef is defender's defensestab is same type attack bonustyp is type difference bonusrage is (1+hits)rnd is a random number (217-255)if anyone still cares about present, it's coming along nicely now. just having a little problem with the rock and steel types.------------------i am the sandshrew! cu-cu-kachoo!"so? mentar thinks it's a good idea." - givera"there ain't nothin' like whackin' and snackin'." - pkthunder From: the middle | Registered: Nov 2000  |  IP: Logged
 Brayze Farting Nudist Member # 1286 Member Rated: posted 06-03-2001 03:12 AM                    UmbreonMean LookRageGrowlMoonlight@leftoversYou like? Too bad there's no charm.------------------"Have bacon! Coffee! Come on, you're American!" - The Japanese From: Lunar Palace ver. 3.1 | Registered: Dec 2000  |  IP: Logged
 TeeJay Farting Nudist Member # 265 Member Rated: posted 06-03-2001 11:51 AM                    Very good work.------------------"You a pothead, Focker?" - DeNiroAIM: daBIGTom From: Overland Park, Kansas, USA | Registered: Apr 2000  |  IP: Logged
 poccil Farting Nudist Member # 1457 posted 06-03-2001 07:09 PM                        quote:Originally posted by spunman:if anyone still cares about present, it's coming along nicely now. just having a little problem with the rock and steel types.For my information, exactly how far?------------------Peter Occil, in charge of The Ultimate Pokemon CenterCheck out my Gold/Silver Guides! http://www.poccil.f2s.com/games/gs/guides/Help me answer tough GS questions! Registered: Jan 2001  |  IP: Logged
 Jigglypuff Farting Nudist Member # 144 Member Rated: posted 06-03-2001 08:43 PM                     This is better then Belly Drum....CharizardRageDouble TeamRestGrowl/me has trouble making a pokémon moveset without DT/Minimize------------------Member of DTaholics annonymousMember of Neopets! real killer, I think, is hopelessness" - Brayze Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged

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